[Dup] Full Metal Panic!

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ByteShare
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[Dup] Full Metal Panic!

Postby ByteShare » Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:31 pm

Delete: https://www.thetvdb.com/series/full-met ... le-victory
Keep: https://www.thetvdb.com/series/full-met ... /seasons/4
More info: http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?sh ... &aid=11731

A little tricky is https://www.thetvdb.com/series/fullmeta ... easons/all
Which is Season two of: https://www.thetvdb.com/series/full-met ... /seasons/2
But really it is a side story so it should either be specials or deleted from https://www.thetvdb.com/series/full-metal-panic/
If deleted then the series would need to be adjusted to only be 3 seasons...just changing Season 3 > 2 and 4 > 3.

My suggestion is to do the later and delete season 2 and keep the https://www.thetvdb.com/series/fullmetal-panic-fluffy/ entry

Mistywing
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Re: [Dup] Full Metal Panic!

Postby Mistywing » Fri Mar 01, 2019 7:01 pm

FMP Fumoffu was placed as Season 2 by this reasoning.

If you can find an official Japanese source indicating otherwise that'd be about the only way to override this decision properly. Though I have to say I agree with FMP F being split personally.

What doesn't help making this decision any easier is that deleting FMP Season 2 and moving stuff around is bound to have severe repercussions down the line since the data is very old.

Fanart backup
Moved so that the thread stays a bit more stable in the forum.
I'm holding off on deleting FMP F ID 351311 for now to leave time for research.

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Re: [Dup] Full Metal Panic!

Postby ByteShare » Sat Mar 02, 2019 1:03 am

"If you can find an official Japanese source indicating"
I don't speak Japanese so that will be tough for me. I can only tell you from watching the show and reading summaries else where that it doesn't fit in the story like the other 2 seasons.
I wasn't sure the best way to go about it but knew that there shouldn't be both. Thank you for looking at this.

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Re: [Dup] Full Metal Panic!

Postby Mistywing » Sat Mar 02, 2019 7:16 pm

You can use Google Translate because I will be doing the same on the other end. It's just that finding information for everything asked about on this forum takes a lot of time.

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Re: [Dup] Full Metal Panic!

Postby ByteShare » Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:44 am

OH, okay then I'm a little confused because in the link you sent about the reasoning it was the same thing I'm saying now that it is a spin off and not part of the main story, but you want more evidence than that as well?
Says sequel here: https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encycl ... php?id=844
But if you read here about season "3": https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encycl ... hp?id=4449
This series is set about two months after the events ocurred in the Tuatha de Danaan at the end of the original series.

Although FMP Fumoffu does contain the same characters as season one (Kaname Chidori and Sousuke Saga)
3 of the 4 links from animenewsnetwork are dead, but the 4th (https://www.fujitv.co.jp/b_hp/fullmeta/ or with Google Translate: https://translate.google.com/translate? ... ullmeta%2F)
says nothing really.
Searching on that site those gets me to: https://translate.google.com/translate? ... _frame%3D0
Which, doesn't say anything about it relating to the first season, but the summary is pretty much the same as season one because it is basically a repeat of season 1 but like an alternate version aka spin-off IMO.

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Re: [Dup] Full Metal Panic!

Postby ByteShare » Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:41 pm

I was looking and https://www.thetvdb.com/series/fullmeta ... easons/all still exists...maybe we're misunderstanding each other.
I don't think Fumoffu should be its own entry, rather it shouldn't be season 2 of https://www.thetvdb.com/series/full-met ... /seasons/2
and moved to specials

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Re: [Dup] Full Metal Panic!

Postby ByteShare » Tue Mar 05, 2019 4:33 pm

Mistywing wrote:FMP Fumoffu was placed as Season 2 by this reasoning.

I think it should be removed from Season 2 and kept as its own entry (not my preference) because of this reasoning:
viewtopic.php?f=41&t=54411&p=145355#p145355
hikaricore wrote:Side stories and spin-offs should be separate entries, unless the are OVA content.

viewtopic.php?f=18&t=25972&p=88297&hilit=side+stories#p88297

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Re: [Dup] Full Metal Panic!

Postby ByteShare » Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:38 am

Mistywing wrote:I mean, you're spreading out the same topic in two places so I'm responding to what's most recently posted :|

The policy in general is something I agree with and strive to implement whenever possible. You brought up Oratoria and it's definitely an example case that works perfectly well.

Regarding Fumoffu specifically there are issues with how the decision was made and is still supported by the selected source of information (ANN) that IMHO require a different and better source before applying the policy being brought up, as the changes requested will have large consequences to users. The data is old, and an entire season will vanish.

Thinking about it with anime vocab, I'm overriding my senpai's decision when he's still technically based on an accepted source of information, and with no source of information to show on my end as well. It's a bit awkward for me to do alone because of these factors.

Is there a standard of which information super-seeds others? AniDB or ANN?
But if keeping Fumoffu because of old information from ANN that is find too but then the Fumoffu entry should be deleted no?

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Re: [Dup] Full Metal Panic!

Postby Mistywing » Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:47 am

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=9271

ANN > MAL / AniDB so it's really unfortunate. That's why I asked for something closer to the original website or a contemporary announcement.

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Re: [Dup] Full Metal Panic!

Postby ByteShare » Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:49 pm

Okay, if ANN is greater than I don't see anything more official since the Japanese sites I translated didn't have more than an advertising type blurb on the series.
I guess we'll have to delete the https://www.thetvdb.com/series/fullmeta ... easons/all