Pokémon series - attention needed.

Series that require continual maintenance and / or aggressive cleanup.
mixdan
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Tue Apr 25, 2017 4:31 am

Can we ensure that any changes to this show, and all other shows, are kept in line with the community guidelines and provide evidence that these changes are necessary?

Recently this topic requested the move of Season 20 to Season 18, and deleting the subsequent Season 18 and 19 pages. It didn't take long to verify that this information is incorrect, and now the modern season information for Pokémon is largely incorrect.

http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/pokemon_sunmoon/
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/ ... s_episodes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_P ... n_episodes

I do not have the time today to provide a full set of evidence on season numbering, or ensure the correct information is available and uploaded, so I would recommend to the Admins that the previous change is reversed, restoring all lost information, before any further work is done to verify the data in modern seasons.

I have looked through the TVDB and confirmed that Seasons 14-20 are incorrect, incomplete, or missing. The following Wikipedia links can be verified against Bulbapedia, but are provided for quick verification that there is a current data problem for

For reference:

Season 14 (2010-2011): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_P ... e_episodes
Season 15 (2011-2012): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_P ... s_episodes
Season 16 Part 1 (2012-2013): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_P ... a_episodes
Season 16 Part 2 (2013-2014): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_P ... d_episodes
Season 17 (2013-2014): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_P ... Y_episodes
Season 18 (2014-2015): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_P ... t_episodes
Season 19 (2015-2016): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_P ... Z_episodes
Season 20 (2016-present): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_P ... n_episodes
mixdan
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Joined: Mon Apr 03, 2017 9:52 am

Tue Apr 25, 2017 5:31 am

It would appear multiple seasons have been squished into one season per series. Anime can be confusing at times, but in this case this is incorrect - Pokémon has multiple seasons per series.

It looks like the following has happened:

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+-------------+--------------+
| Real episode | TVDB episode |
| S14 E01-E48  | S14 E01-E48  |
| S15 E01-E36  | S14 E49-E84  |
| S15 E37-E49  | S15 E01-E13  |
| S16 E01-E25  | S15 E14-E38  |
| S16 E26-E45  | S15 E39-E58  |
| S17 E01-E48  | S16 E01-E48  |
| S18 E01-E45  | S16 E49-E92  |
| S19 E01-E40  | S17 E01-E40  |
| S19 E41-E49  | S17 E41-E49  |  # Japanese titles instead of English
| S20 E01-E23  | S18 E01-E23  |
+--------------+--------------+


It also seems that from a few I've checked, absolute numbering is incorrect in places (we should always use Japanese, but in some cases it is neither), however, we should correct that information after the current Season numbering is sorted.

In addition, the imagery and season descriptions will need updated when the episodes are moved to their correct season.
Lys
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Location: Canada

Tue Apr 25, 2017 3:57 pm

I agree, the Japanese version officially split the Best Wishes (Black & White) series into 4 parts.

While TV Tokyo's episode listings aren't sorted out this way, they do have announcements for each of the parts in the news area:
http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/pokemon ... index.html
I'm not sure how to link to the individual posts but you can ctrl+f the dates of the posts
Part 2 - 2012.05.17
Part 3 - 2012.12.06
Part 4 - 2013.03.15
santalol
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Joined: Mon May 01, 2017 12:28 am

Mon May 01, 2017 12:43 am

I confirm a problem on the episode/season numbering.
Season 14-15-16-17-18 on TVDB database are wrong or many sites are wrong so it will be good if it can be unlocked for people make in order by themselves or the man who have lock make in correct order.
Even if season are not make in good order we even have episode missing, in the current Pokemon page season 16 (with actual order) we have episode 24 who is missing (to 24 to 92 are current number +1) and for verify this we only have to look the episode ending where we see a little preview of the next episode.

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/XY024

If the link isn't enough we can even look the air

So don't know if a man will correct the season order but we can start by make the correct amount of episode
mixdan
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Tue May 02, 2017 5:51 am

I think this is best corrected by the admins first (as they can perform moves), following the information detailed in this post. Once the admins have done that, if they want to unlock it at the episode level (rather than season level) we can fix the few absolute numbering examples that are still wrong.
andcbii
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Joined: Sat Apr 14, 2012 9:14 pm

Mon May 15, 2017 3:29 pm

So, are there 18 or 20 seasons? My tivo says 20 and so does themoviedb.org.
halfe
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Joined: Sun Aug 18, 2013 4:43 am

Sun Jun 04, 2017 12:07 pm

Hi. I see that this post needs some attention again.

As above I also have a problem with the sorting of Pokémon. I use Plex for media player and Sonarr for sorting, the problem is that Sonarr's sorting does not correspond to Plex's sorting. Plex's says it want 20 season and changing from DVD order to Airing order just messes it up As shown below in the images. The Episodes is not correct according to sorting

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according to the official Pokemon's us site http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-episodes/pokemon-tv-seasons/season-18/
The Episode 1 of season 18 starts with "Pathways to Preformance" not "Alola To New Adventures!" witch is Episode 1 of Season 20.

Here is the official list of the pokemon Series
http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-episodes/pokemon-tv-seasons/
IMDB
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0176385/



Is there a way to get the admins attention to get them to open the episode lock on the series
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0176385/
halfe
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Sun Jun 04, 2017 12:23 pm

The change starts from season 14 episode 49 where it should start at season 15 it continues in season 14 up to season 15 episode 13. so a total 49 episodes.
Season 15 episode 14 is really Season 16 episode 1 and continues the rest of season 15.
Season 16 episode 1 is really season 17 episode 1 and Season 16 Episode 49 is really Season 18 episode 1
Season 17 episode 1 is really season 19 episode 1
and season 18 episode 1 is really season 20 episode 1.
andcbii
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Joined: Sat Apr 14, 2012 9:14 pm

Tue Jul 04, 2017 9:09 am

any idea on if/when this will be updated? I'd be willing to make the updates.
andcbii
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Tue Jul 04, 2017 10:20 am

Also i think this episode is listed wrong:

https://thetvdb.com/index.php?tab=episo ... id=5660033

It listed as a special, but it's a normal episode that should be between "A Relay in the Sky!" and "A Frenzied Factory Fiasco!".
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