Antiques Roadshow (US) - cleanup of specials

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Antiques Roadshow (US) - cleanup of specials

Postby f8andbethere » Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:17 am

https://www.thetvdb.com/series/antiques ... easons/all

While downloading some episodes from PBS today, I noticed there is inconsistent treatment of specials for the Antiques Roadshow (US). Some seasons tack them on at the end, and some season the specials are in the Specials season. You can clearly see that these episodes are labeled in the title or description as specials on the PBS website: https://www.pbs.org/show/antiques-roadshow/

I believe this should be cleaned up and I'd like to propose the following

Move these episodes to special and prefix with Special: when needed:

12x19 Politically Collect https://www.thetvdb.com/series/antiques ... es/3660051
13x19 Special: Relative Riches https://www.thetvdb.com/series/antiques ... es/5501669
13x20 Special: Big and Little https://www.thetvdb.com/series/antiques ... es/5501670
16x25 Junk in the Trunk 2 https://www.thetvdb.com/series/antiques ... es/4856786
16x26 Cats and Dogs https://www.thetvdb.com/series/antiques ... es/4856787
16x27 Greatest Gifts https://www.thetvdb.com/series/antiques ... es/4856788
17x25 Junk in the Trunk 3 https://www.thetvdb.com/series/antiques ... es/4706140
17x26 Special: Survivors https://www.thetvdb.com/series/antiques ... es/4718039
17x27 Finders Keepers https://www.thetvdb.com/series/antiques ... es/4750893
18x32 Junk in the Trunk 4 Part 1 https://www.thetvdb.com/series/antiques ... es/5030349
18x33 Junk in the Trunk 4 Part 2 https://www.thetvdb.com/series/antiques ... es/5030350
18x34 The Boomers years https://www.thetvdb.com/series/antiques ... es/5030351
18x35 Manor House Treasures https://www.thetvdb.com/series/antiques ... es/5030352
19x32 Junk in the Trunk 5 Hour 1 https://www.thetvdb.com/series/antiques ... es/5396937
19x33 Junk in the Trunk 5 Hour 2 https://www.thetvdb.com/series/antiques ... es/5403582
19x34 Treasures on the Move https://www.thetvdb.com/series/antiques ... es/5453827
20x26 Mansion Masterpieces https://www.thetvdb.com/series/antiques ... es/5818751


I would propose a re-numbering of specials to be in date order after this is finished. Also, need mods to delete episode 0's for Season 19, 21.

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Re: Antiques Roadshow (US) - cleanup of specials

Postby f8andbethere » Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:50 am

To my surprise, the originating station of Antiques Roadshow also lists the "Vintage (insert city here)" episodes are also specials. Input welcomed on whether to list them as such: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/roadshow/watch/ ... e/special/

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Re: Antiques Roadshow (US) - cleanup of specials

Postby f8andbethere » Tue Aug 14, 2018 6:20 pm

I'll wait one more day and then do the cleanup as proposed in the original post, unless someone objects. I've thought about the idea of moving the "Vintage (xx)" episodes and don't think it's appropriate, given many seasons have a block of them mid-year and seem to be labeled as regular episodes in terms of numbering.

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Re: Antiques Roadshow (US) - cleanup of specials

Postby polargeek » Tue Aug 14, 2018 8:19 pm

Do not renumber specials ever - the specials season does not need to be in air date order. Also even if an episode has special in the title if the PBS website shows it with a season # Like say Season 18 Episode 35 then it needs to stay in Season 18

A quick look shows that the two PBS links you provided are not even consistent between themselves. At this point we would need a much better and definitive source before radically changing this listing. Also just using season 16 as an example nothing on this page indicates any of these episodes are specials - http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/roadshow/watch/season/16/
All PM's asking for exceptions, rule changes, series unlocks et al will be ignored.

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Re: Antiques Roadshow (US) - cleanup of specials

Postby f8andbethere » Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:33 pm

First thanks for replying. You are right, there are some discrepancies. But admittedly that's the case with the current thetvdb listings as well. Each station maintains different databases that seem (sometimes) to be built around common data, but not always.

I was seeing the themed episodes listed as specials here:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/roadshow/watch/ ... e/special/

Now as I posted it also lists the "vintage" episodes as in that category as well, so I don't know what to make of that. The air descriptions typically described them (the non-vintage episodes like the ones I proposed to move) as specials. See this for an example:
https://www.pbs.org/video/antiques-road ... survivors/

"In this special episode..."

However, based on your criteria, almost all of the existing specials would then be classified as normal episodes, to be moved back to the regular seasons.

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Re: Antiques Roadshow (US) - cleanup of specials

Postby f8andbethere » Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:53 pm

I'm unsure how to proceed in light of the comments by PolarGeek (an admin). Forget about the renumbering - does anyone have thoughts on if my sources are good enough for moving the (non-vintage) special episodes to the specials season? It seems like it should either be one way or another - it doesn't make any sense to have half these episodes in specials and half of them in the regular season listings.

Here is a typical listing:
https://video.klru.tv/video/antiques-ro ... americana/

Special: Celebrating Black Americana
Season 19 Episode 34 | 53m 10s
On February 9th at 9/8c PM, Antiques Roadshow is honoring Black History Month with the special episode Celebrating Black Americana.

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Re: Antiques Roadshow (US) - cleanup of specials

Postby f8andbethere » Sun Sep 09, 2018 9:09 pm

Anyone? :)

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Re: Antiques Roadshow (US) - cleanup of specials

Postby Marjairty » Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:48 am

f8andbethere wrote:Anyone? :)

yes :D

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Re: Antiques Roadshow (US) - cleanup of specials

Postby f8andbethere » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:00 pm

Marjairty wrote:
f8andbethere wrote:Anyone? :)

yes :D


Thanks for the input :)