Marvel Rising cleanup requested

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yemaozi
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Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:14 pm

Marvel Rising is a Marvel Comics franchise of comic books, TV movies, TV specials, web series, games, merch, etc.:

Official Marvel Rising overall site: https://marvelrising.marvelhq.com/
Official Disney HQ Marvel Rising video site: https://disneynow.com/shows/collection/ ... collection
Official Marvel HQ Marvel Rising video site: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... pChhTGFtus
Official Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/MarvelRising/
Wikipedia Marvel Rising page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel_Rising

However on TVDB, the listing is as "Marvel Rising: Initiation": https://www.thetvdb.com/series/marvel-r ... easons/all

Initiation was a series of six 3-5 minute web specials shown on MarvelHQ's YouTube channel and also shown as one 22 minute TV Short. Initiation was promoted as an introductory special to the TV Movie Marvel Rising: Secret Warriors. Initiation was the first release, it is not the ongoing name of the series.

While the various Marvel Rising movies and shorts are NOT part of the Initiation series, they are listed on TVDB as specials of the Initiation series. For examples of why these are not part of the Initiation series, see the following sources for e.g. the Secret Warriors TV Movie:

IMDB Secret Warriors page: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7728344/
Disney HQ Secret Warriors (official site): https://disneynow.com/shows/marvel-risi ... dka5443282
MarvelHQ Secret Warriors (official site): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNaTd-Jxr3k
Annnouncement on official facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/MarvelRising/p ... =1&theater
Wikipedia Secret Warriors movie page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel_Ri ... t_Warriors

Nowhere in any of the above sources is Initiation part of the name or even mentioned. While I've only given examples for "Secret Warriors", you can follow the same process to see that none of the other Marvel Rising videos use Initiation in the name on any official or authoritative site. Therefore they should not be listed as Initiation specials on TVDB.

There are a few possible solutions:

1) Rename the series from "Marvel Rising: Initiation" to "Marvel Rising" and rename the "season 1" episodes to add the prefix "Initiation: ".
2) Do the same as 1 but also move "Marvel Rising Ultimate Comic" from specials to "season 2".
3) Split off a separate series called "Marvel Rising" and move the current Initiation specials to the separate series.
4) Do the same as 3 but also split off "Marvel Rising Ultimate Comic" as a separate series.
5) Do the same as 3 or 4 but also split off "Marvel Rising: Secret Warriors" as a separate TV movie.

Each of these options has various drawbacks so I'm not sure which is the best one, but they are all much better than the current situation.
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