Modern Marvels (again)

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axel33
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Re: Modern Marvels (again)

Postby axel33 » Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:18 pm

These are the duplicates I found with same first aired date on all duplicates:
The ones in italic should be deleted (from my point of view).


S13-E16:'80s Tech (2006-5-24)
S12-E17:'80's Tech (2006-5-24)
S13-E46:80's Tech (2006-5-24)

S16-E4:American Trucking (2011-2-4)
S17-E14:American Trucking (2011-2-4)

S12-E41:Atlantic Intracoastal Waterway (2006-9-26)
S13-E31:Atlantic Intracoastal Waterway (2006-9-26)

S12-E23:BBQ Tech (2006-6-28)
S13-E20:BBQ Tech (2006-6-28)

S12-E18:Ben Franklin Tech (2006-5-25)
S13-E17:Ben Franklin Tech (2006-5-25)

S12-E51:Breakfast Tech (2006-11-28)
S13-E39:Breakfast Tech (2006-11-28)

S18-E2:Built by Hand (2011-10-10)
S16-E6:Built by Hand (2011-10-10)

S15-E27:Built to Last (2010-12-3)
S17-E6:Built To Last (2010-12-3)

S12-E7:Candy (2006-2-14)
S13-E8:Candy (2006-2-14)

S13-E45:Christmas Tech (2006-12-20)
S12-E57:Christmas Tech (2006-12-20)

S15-E24:Coin Operated II (2010-11-12)
S17-E3:Coin Operated II (2010-11-12)

S13-E5:Containers (2006-1-4)
S12-E1:Containers (2006-1-4)

S16-E16:Convenience Stores (2011-12-26)
S18-E9:Convenience Stores (2011-12-26)

S13-E28:Copper (2006-9-13)
S12-E35:Copper (2006-9-13)

S13-E6:Cotton (2006-1-18)
S12-E3:Cotton (2006-1-18)

S12-E46:Distilleries (2) (2006-10-11)
S13-E34:Distilleries 2 (2006-10-11)

S17-E5:Dogs (2010-11-26)
S15-E26:Dogs (2010-11-26)

S12-E16:Drilling (2006-5-10)
S13-E15:Drilling (2006-5-10)

S17-E9:Drivers Seat (2010-12-21)
S15-E30:Driver's Seat (2010-12-21)

S13-E11:Engineering disasters 19 (2006-3-22)
S12-E12:Engineering Disasters (19) (2006-3-22)

S13-E42:Engineering Disasters 20 (2006-12-6)
S12-E54:Engineering Disasters (20) (2006-12-6)

S17-E4:Engineering Disasters 22 (2010-11-19)
S15-E25:Engineering Disasters 22 (2010-11-19)

S13-E9:Engineering Disasters: New Orleans (2006-2-28)
S12-E10:Engineering Disasters: New Orleans (2006-2-28)

S12-E2:Fire (2006-1-11)
S13-E1:Fire (2006-1-11)

S18-E5:Food Trucks (2011-11-14)
S16-E9:Food Trucks (2011-11-14)
You should delete S16-E9 and move S18-E5 to S16-E9 (because S18-E5 has better quality)

S12-E39:Freight Trains (2006-9-20)
S13-E30:Freight Trains (2006-9-20)

S16-E2:Grease (2011-1-21)
S17-E12:Grease (2011-1-21)

S13-E18:Heavy Metals (2006-6-14)
S12-E20:Heavy Metals: Copper, Uranium, Chromium, Lead, Nickel And Zinc (2006-6-14)

S13-E13:Hi-Tech Hitler (2006-5-2)
S12-E14:Hi-Tech Hitler (2006-5-2)

S13-E19:Horsepower (2006-6-21)
S12-E22:Horsepower (2006-6-21)

S13-E33:Ink (2006-10-4)
S12-E45:Ink (2006-10-4)

S18-E1:Inside Your Walls (2011-10-3)
S16-E5:Inside Your Walls (2011-10-3)

S13-E10:Leather (2006-3-8)
S12-E11:Leather (2006-3-8)

S13-E26:Levees (2006-8-30)
S12-E32:Levees (2006-8-30)

S15-E29:Made in the USA (2010-12-17)
S17-E8:Made In The USA (2010-12-17)

S18-E7:More Candy (2011-12-5)
S16-E11:More Candy (2011-12-5)

S12-E31:Mummy Tech (2006-8-23)
S13-E25:Mummy Tech (2006-8-23)

S12-E9:Nature Tech: Avalanches (2006-2-24)
S13-E2:Nature Tech: Avalanche (2006-2-24)

S13-E23:Nuts (2006-8-2)
S12-E29:Nuts (2006-8-2)

S16-E1:Packaging (2011-1-14)
S17-E11:Packaging (2011-1-14)

S16-E8:Pocket Tools (2011-11-7)
S18-E4:Pocket Tools (2011-11-7)

S16-E3:Ropes & Chains (2011-1-28)
S17-E13:Ropes and Chains (2011-1-28)

S15-E28:Secret Underground (2010-12-10)
S17-E7:Secret Underground (2010-12-10)

S12-E15:Shovels (2006-5-3)
S13-E14:Shovels (2006-5-3)

S12-E55:Snow (2006-12-10)
S13-E43:Snow (2006-12-10)

S12-E43:Stealth & Beyond: Sea Stealth (2006-9-27)
S13-E32:Stealth and Beyond: Sea Stealth (2006-9-27)

S15-E23:Supersized Food (2010-11-5)
S17-E2:Supersized Food (2010-11-5)

S18-E3:Swamp Tech (2011-10-24)
S16-E7:Swamp Tech (2011-10-24)

S13-E44:Tea (2006-12-13)
S12-E56:Tea (2006-12-13)

S13-E38:The Supermarket (2006-11-15)
S12-E50:The Supermarket (2006-11-15)

S12-E49:Tobacco (2006-11-8)
S13-E37:Tobacco (2006-11-8)

S13-E36:Tomcat Sunset (2006-11-1)
S12-E48:Tomcat Sunset (2006-11-1)

S13-E27:Water (2006-9-6)
S12-E33:Water (2006-9-6)

S16-E10:Weird Machines (2011-11-28)
S18-E6:Weird Machines (2011-11-28)

S13-E40:Wine (2006-11-29)
S12-E52:Wine (2006-11-29)

S16-E15:Wood (2011-12-19)
S18-E8:Wood (2011-12-19)

S12-E27:World's Biggest Machines (5) (2006-7-26)
S13-E22:World's Biggest Machines 5 (2006-7-26)

S13-E35:World's Strongest (2006-10-18)
S12-E47:World's Strongest (1) (2006-10-18)


These are the duplicates I found with different first aired date:

S16-E12:Battle Ready (2011-12-7)
S18-E10:Battle Ready (2012-1-2)

S12-E34:Cola Wars (2006-9-7)
S13-E4:Cola Wars (2006-2-20)

S9-E29:More Engineering Disasters (2003-7-2)
S5-E31:Engineering Disasters (2) (1999-11-29)
Episode S5-E32 on History is called More Engineering Disasters (1999-11-29)

S13-E7:Engineering Disasters 18 (2006-1-18)
S12-E6:Engineering Disasters (18) (2006-2-8)

S6-E44:Firefighting In Extreme Conditions
S11-E9:Firefighting!: Extreme Conditions (2005-2-15)

S12-E25:Pirate Tech (2006-7-12)
S13-E21:Pirate Tech (2006-7-9)

S12-E38:Renewable Energy (2006-9-20)
S13-E29:Renewable Energy (2006-8-27)

S15-E31:Rice (2010-12-29)
S17-E10:Rice (2010-9-14)

S12-E53:Harvesting (2) (2006-11-29)
S13-E41:Harvesting 2 (2020-11-29)

S13-E12:Insulation (2006-3-30)
S12-E13:Insulation (2006-4-26)

S17-E1:Mega Stores (2012-10-29)
S15-E22:Mega Stores (2010-10-29)

S18-E13:Stink (2012-1-23)
S16-E13:Stink (2011-12-8)

S0-E100:The M16
S8-E47:The M-16 (2002-11-14)

S18-E11:Waterproof (2012-1-9)
S16-E14:Waterproof (2011-12-16)

Dxcv
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Re: Modern Marvels (again)

Postby Dxcv » Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:15 pm

It does look like some of the seasons were set up in the "standard" fall through next spring span. The duplicates appear to be more year-based starting in January through to December.we should be able to straighten it out as long as we can stick to one format and settle on season numbers. Some say 17 others 19 and more still 20

Dxcv
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Re: Modern Marvels (again)

Postby Dxcv » Thu May 02, 2019 1:52 pm

axel33 wrote:These are the duplicates I found with same first aired date on all duplicates:
The ones in italic should be deleted (from my point of view).


S13-E16:'80s Tech (2006-5-24)
S12-E17:'80's Tech (2006-5-24)
S13-E46:80's Tech (2006-5-24)

S16-E4:American Trucking (2011-2-4)
S17-E14:American Trucking (2011-2-4)

S12-E41:Atlantic Intracoastal Waterway (2006-9-26)
S13-E31:Atlantic Intracoastal Waterway (2006-9-26)

S12-E23:BBQ Tech (2006-6-28)
S13-E20:BBQ Tech (2006-6-28)

S12-E18:Ben Franklin Tech (2006-5-25)
S13-E17:Ben Franklin Tech (2006-5-25)

S12-E51:Breakfast Tech (2006-11-28)
S13-E39:Breakfast Tech (2006-11-28)

S18-E2:Built by Hand (2011-10-10)
S16-E6:Built by Hand (2011-10-10)

S15-E27:Built to Last (2010-12-3)
S17-E6:Built To Last (2010-12-3)

S12-E7:Candy (2006-2-14)
S13-E8:Candy (2006-2-14)

S13-E45:Christmas Tech (2006-12-20)
S12-E57:Christmas Tech (2006-12-20)

S15-E24:Coin Operated II (2010-11-12)
S17-E3:Coin Operated II (2010-11-12)

S13-E5:Containers (2006-1-4)
S12-E1:Containers (2006-1-4)

S16-E16:Convenience Stores (2011-12-26)
S18-E9:Convenience Stores (2011-12-26)

S13-E28:Copper (2006-9-13)
S12-E35:Copper (2006-9-13)

S13-E6:Cotton (2006-1-18)
S12-E3:Cotton (2006-1-18)

S12-E46:Distilleries (2) (2006-10-11)
S13-E34:Distilleries 2 (2006-10-11)

S17-E5:Dogs (2010-11-26)
S15-E26:Dogs (2010-11-26)

S12-E16:Drilling (2006-5-10)
S13-E15:Drilling (2006-5-10)

S17-E9:Drivers Seat (2010-12-21)
S15-E30:Driver's Seat (2010-12-21)

S13-E11:Engineering disasters 19 (2006-3-22)
S12-E12:Engineering Disasters (19) (2006-3-22)

S13-E42:Engineering Disasters 20 (2006-12-6)
S12-E54:Engineering Disasters (20) (2006-12-6)

S17-E4:Engineering Disasters 22 (2010-11-19)
S15-E25:Engineering Disasters 22 (2010-11-19)

S13-E9:Engineering Disasters: New Orleans (2006-2-28)
S12-E10:Engineering Disasters: New Orleans (2006-2-28)

S12-E2:Fire (2006-1-11)
S13-E1:Fire (2006-1-11)

S18-E5:Food Trucks (2011-11-14)
S16-E9:Food Trucks (2011-11-14)
You should delete S16-E9 and move S18-E5 to S16-E9 (because S18-E5 has better quality)

S12-E39:Freight Trains (2006-9-20)
S13-E30:Freight Trains (2006-9-20)

S16-E2:Grease (2011-1-21)
S17-E12:Grease (2011-1-21)

S13-E18:Heavy Metals (2006-6-14)
S12-E20:Heavy Metals: Copper, Uranium, Chromium, Lead, Nickel And Zinc (2006-6-14)

S13-E13:Hi-Tech Hitler (2006-5-2)
S12-E14:Hi-Tech Hitler (2006-5-2)

S13-E19:Horsepower (2006-6-21)
S12-E22:Horsepower (2006-6-21)

S13-E33:Ink (2006-10-4)
S12-E45:Ink (2006-10-4)

S18-E1:Inside Your Walls (2011-10-3)
S16-E5:Inside Your Walls (2011-10-3)

S13-E10:Leather (2006-3-8)
S12-E11:Leather (2006-3-8)

S13-E26:Levees (2006-8-30)
S12-E32:Levees (2006-8-30)

S15-E29:Made in the USA (2010-12-17)
S17-E8:Made In The USA (2010-12-17)

S18-E7:More Candy (2011-12-5)
S16-E11:More Candy (2011-12-5)

S12-E31:Mummy Tech (2006-8-23)
S13-E25:Mummy Tech (2006-8-23)

S12-E9:Nature Tech: Avalanches (2006-2-24)
S13-E2:Nature Tech: Avalanche (2006-2-24)

S13-E23:Nuts (2006-8-2)
S12-E29:Nuts (2006-8-2)

S16-E1:Packaging (2011-1-14)
S17-E11:Packaging (2011-1-14)

S16-E8:Pocket Tools (2011-11-7)
S18-E4:Pocket Tools (2011-11-7)

S16-E3:Ropes & Chains (2011-1-28)
S17-E13:Ropes and Chains (2011-1-28)

S15-E28:Secret Underground (2010-12-10)
S17-E7:Secret Underground (2010-12-10)

S12-E15:Shovels (2006-5-3)
S13-E14:Shovels (2006-5-3)

S12-E55:Snow (2006-12-10)
S13-E43:Snow (2006-12-10)

S12-E43:Stealth & Beyond: Sea Stealth (2006-9-27)
S13-E32:Stealth and Beyond: Sea Stealth (2006-9-27)

S15-E23:Supersized Food (2010-11-5)
S17-E2:Supersized Food (2010-11-5)

S18-E3:Swamp Tech (2011-10-24)
S16-E7:Swamp Tech (2011-10-24)

S13-E44:Tea (2006-12-13)
S12-E56:Tea (2006-12-13)

S13-E38:The Supermarket (2006-11-15)
S12-E50:The Supermarket (2006-11-15)

S12-E49:Tobacco (2006-11-8)
S13-E37:Tobacco (2006-11-8)

S13-E36:Tomcat Sunset (2006-11-1)
S12-E48:Tomcat Sunset (2006-11-1)

S13-E27:Water (2006-9-6)
S12-E33:Water (2006-9-6)

S16-E10:Weird Machines (2011-11-28)
S18-E6:Weird Machines (2011-11-28)

S13-E40:Wine (2006-11-29)
S12-E52:Wine (2006-11-29)

S16-E15:Wood (2011-12-19)
S18-E8:Wood (2011-12-19)

S12-E27:World's Biggest Machines (5) (2006-7-26)
S13-E22:World's Biggest Machines 5 (2006-7-26)

S13-E35:World's Strongest (2006-10-18)
S12-E47:World's Strongest (1) (2006-10-18)


These are the duplicates I found with different first aired date:

S16-E12:Battle Ready (2011-12-7)
S18-E10:Battle Ready (2012-1-2)

S12-E34:Cola Wars (2006-9-7)
S13-E4:Cola Wars (2006-2-20)

S9-E29:More Engineering Disasters (2003-7-2)
S5-E31:Engineering Disasters (2) (1999-11-29)
Episode S5-E32 on History is called More Engineering Disasters (1999-11-29)

S13-E7:Engineering Disasters 18 (2006-1-18)
S12-E6:Engineering Disasters (18) (2006-2-8)

S6-E44:Firefighting In Extreme Conditions
S11-E9:Firefighting!: Extreme Conditions (2005-2-15)

S12-E25:Pirate Tech (2006-7-12)
S13-E21:Pirate Tech (2006-7-9)

S12-E38:Renewable Energy (2006-9-20)
S13-E29:Renewable Energy (2006-8-27)

S15-E31:Rice (2010-12-29)
S17-E10:Rice (2010-9-14)

S12-E53:Harvesting (2) (2006-11-29)
S13-E41:Harvesting 2 (2020-11-29)

S13-E12:Insulation (2006-3-30)
S12-E13:Insulation (2006-4-26)

S17-E1:Mega Stores (2012-10-29)
S15-E22:Mega Stores (2010-10-29)

S18-E13:Stink (2012-1-23)
S16-E13:Stink (2011-12-8)

S0-E100:The M16
S8-E47:The M-16 (2002-11-14)

S18-E11:Waterproof (2012-1-9)
S16-E14:Waterproof (2011-12-16)


Given the state of History's site and that their seasons are out of air date order, per the source rules I think we should use https://www.tvguide.com/tvshows/modern-marvels/episodes-season-2/194501/

axel33
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Re: Modern Marvels (again)

Postby axel33 » Thu May 02, 2019 11:52 pm

I have added the missing episodes.

briankitt
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Re: Modern Marvels (again)

Postby briankitt » Wed May 08, 2019 11:38 am

Why is there so much duplication between S12 and S13? I can't help but think S13 must be combined with S12, and repeated as S13.

I would offer to go in there and remove duplicates, but I really can't find a good authoritative source for either season. Even the history Chanel has more than one listing of episodes, and if you want to watch full versions on their website, they go by an entire different season scheme altogether. So I'm not sure how we can resolve this.

But at minimum, we should not have duplication between seasons. I pulled everything into a spreadsheet and looked at it, and there is a lot of duplication of episodes between seasons.

briankitt
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Re: Modern Marvels (again)

Postby briankitt » Thu May 09, 2019 3:33 pm

Here is a list of all of the duplicates. Many of these are in locked seasons, so only a moderator can remove the duplicates.
Description Episodes
American Trucking S17E14,S16E04
Atlantic Intracoastal Waterway S13E31,S12E41
Battle Ready S16E12,S18E10
BBQ Tech S13E20,S12E23
Ben Franklin Tech S13E17,S12E18
Breakfast Tech S13E39,S12E51
Built by Hand S16E06,S18E02
Built To Last S17E06,S15E27
Candy S13E08,S12E07
Christmas Tech S13E45,S12E57
Coin Operated II S15E24,S17E03
Cola Wars S12E34,S13E04
Containers S13E05,S12E01
Convenience Stores S16E16,S18E09
Copper S13E28,S12E35
Cotton S12E03,S13E06
Dogs S15E26,S17E05
Drilling S12E16,S13E15
Engineering Disasters 22 S15E25,S17E04
Engineering Disasters: New Orleans S13E09,S12E10
Fire S12E02,S13E01
Food Trucks S16E09,S18E05
Freight Trains S13E30,S12E39
Grease S17E12,S16E02
Hi-Tech Hitler S12E14,S13E13
Horsepower S12E22,S13E19
Ink S13E33,S12E45
Inside Your Walls S16E05,S18E01
Insulation S13E12,S12E13
Leather S12E11,S13E10
Levees S13E26,S12E32
Made in the USA S15E29,S17E08
Mega Stores S15E22,S17E01
More Candy S16E11,S18E07
Mummy Tech S12E31,S13E25
Nuts S13E23,S12E29
Packaging S16E01,S17E11
Pirate Tech S12E25,S13E21
Pocket Tools S18E04,S16E08
Renewable Energy S13E29,S12E38
Rice S15E31,S17E10
Secret Underground S15E28,S17E07
Shovels S13E14,S12E15
Snow S12E55,S13E43
Stink S16E13,S18E13
Supersized Food S15E23,S17E02
Swamp Tech S16E07,S18E03
Tea S12E56,S13E44
The Space Station S06E04,S00E31
Tobacco S12E49,S13E37
Tomcat Sunset S13E36,S12E48
Water S12E33,S13E27
Waterproof S16E14,S18E11
Weird Machines S16E10,S18E06
Wine S12E52,S13E40
Wood S16E15,S18E08

Merlinium
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Re: Modern Marvels (again)

Postby Merlinium » Fri May 17, 2019 8:34 am

ok, who is it that keeps messing with this series, first off how can season 18 be dated before Season 17, come on, lets at least have a little common sense. I understand that the guy setting up the web page for History Channel seems to be missing a few crayons from his box, but the least the mod who keeps changing the order of the episodes on this site can use a little of his brain power.

I know the policy is to not use wiki as a source but this series is seriously screwed up and should be an exception, as it is ended, and we can all agree that getting it into a semi usable and stable state is far preferable than every few months/years changing it only to find your downloader is now grabbing more duplicates and renaming them based on whatever iteration is posted on here.

signed by one who is tired of trying to keep this series from downloading and overwriting episodes causing duplicate problems.

rev.pragon
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Re: Modern Marvels (again)

Postby rev.pragon » Fri May 17, 2019 8:47 am

Ok enough now. No one of the Mods have made any Changes because the Seasons aren´t locked.
I see that it is a pretty Mess, feel free to bring Season 17 and 18 in a correct Order and if this done, i can lock the Seasons.
I´ve tried to keep those with Images. Maybe you can use them. If not, tell it, the Episode gets deleted.
No Support via PN. Read the Rules.

We DON´T delete Pictures on Episodes on the current Site. Provide Images and a Mod/Admin will replace it.

Victoria
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Re: Modern Marvels (again)

Postby Victoria » Mon May 20, 2019 6:42 pm

Why don't you guys just convert it to a year format?

S2006, S2007, S2008 etc.

Obviously the current numbering is completely arbitrary.

Merlinium
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Re: Modern Marvels (again)

Postby Merlinium » Tue May 21, 2019 12:20 am

Yeah sorry about that, my bad about the "mod" reference on changing the seasons.
The last time I was having a naming issue with this series, the seasons were locked, and I renamed and left them on my server. It wasn't until I saw that my downloader started downloading "new" episodes and saw it start overwriting other episodes that I came back on here to see what was going on.

This series is totally messed up, 5 different sources all with different airing dates, different season groupings. Its no wonder this series is so messed up when it comes to setting a proper list.

Naming by year won't be of help either, when you have Grand Coulee Dam listed as first aired in 1993 on one site and 1996 on another site, and not even listed on other sites.

This series would probably take someone a ton of time looking at "wayback" and gathering proper info as to when each aired. Time I am sure no one really has for a show that is ended.