[Name Change] Lodoss:The Legend Of Crystania OAV

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[Name Change] Lodoss:The Legend Of Crystania OAV

Postby ByteShare » Sat Jun 09, 2018 3:05 pm

For: https://www.thetvdb.com/series/lodoss-t ... stania-oav
Please change the name from:
Lodoss:The Legend Of Crystania OAV

To:
Lodoss: The Legend Of Crystania OAV

Adding a space after the :.
I'd also argue that you don't need the OAV in the title since it is different from https://www.thetvdb.com/series/legend-o ... easons/all
Which doesn't have the Lodoss: in the front, but either way, there is a missing space in the title.

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Re: [Name Change] Lodoss:The Legend Of Crystania OAV

Postby DarklightIndigo » Sun Jun 10, 2018 4:30 am

Actually, those two are exactly the same, beyond typographical stylistic differences.
The original record is here:
https://www.thetvdb.com/series/record-o ... /seasons/0

It would seem that somebody split the DVD release into chapters or something similar, which is technically contrary to policy, and there will need to be some cleanup between:
- Record of Lodoss War (https://www.thetvdb.com/series/record-o ... /seasons/0)
- Lodoss: The Legend of Crystania (https://www.thetvdb.com/series/lodoss-t ... easons/all)
- Legend of Crystania (https://www.thetvdb.com/series/legend-o ... easons/all)
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Re: [Name Change] Lodoss:The Legend Of Crystania OAV

Postby ByteShare » Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:33 pm

https://www.thetvdb.com/series/record-o ... easons/all
Was a TV series and should have its own entry

As for
https://www.thetvdb.com/series/lodoss-t ... easons/all
&
https://www.thetvdb.com/series/legend-o ... easons/all
I'm fairly confident (http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=691) it should just be: Legend of Crystania

Originally I was just looking up Record of Lodoss War, didn't look for a dup on Legend of Crystania.

I think you should keep the lowerID: 85312 https://www.thetvdb.com/series/legend-o ... easons/all
And delete: 144971 https://www.thetvdb.com/series/lodoss-t ... easons/all
The higher ID doesn't have any additional information (translations) other than the main description in German:
Nach dem Krieg von Lodoss landeten Ashram und Pirotess auf Crystania, der verbotenen Götterinsel. Um sich einlass zu verschaffen opferte Ashram seinen Körper dem bösartigen Gott Barbas. Mit Hilfe des jungen Prinzen Raydon gelang es Pirotess Barbas zu besiegen, dabei verlor jedoch Ashram sein Leben.
I can't added or add this.
The newer ID does have one poster but I can't added that to the lower ID either because it is locked own tight.

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Re: [Name Change] Lodoss:The Legend Of Crystania OAV

Postby DarklightIndigo » Mon Jun 11, 2018 9:24 pm

Oh, no doubt, the problem here is that OAV are supposed to be grouped into Specials of their associated series, only left as legacy entries when there really isn't much in the way of associations. I merged and pulled 144971, and I think we should use the legacy exemption to leave 85312 alone for the time being.
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Re: [Name Change] Lodoss:The Legend Of Crystania OAV

Postby ByteShare » Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:35 pm

Question about that, because the OAV isn't actually related to the main storyline of the TV show, as they don't play into each other, but in the case of The Librarians (2014) the prequeal movies have their own entry and I was told that they weren't allowed to be specials because they don't interactive with the main storyline enough...even though same character with mentions of the history of the movies and even characters from the movies come back in the later seasons.
TL-DR...shouldn't the OAV be its own entry just because it isn't related to the series?

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Re: [Name Change] Lodoss:The Legend Of Crystania OAV

Postby DarklightIndigo » Tue Jun 12, 2018 1:19 pm

It's poorly defined at the moment, and there's a great deal of latitude in enforcing the policy as it exists, as we want to be more inclusive of this type of material.
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Re: [Name Change] Lodoss:The Legend Of Crystania OAV

Postby ByteShare » Tue Jun 12, 2018 2:40 pm

I don't want to get offtopic but I can say that adding entries and having them removed later because the "rules" say so but seeing exceptions all over the place is the reason I stopped adding/contributing to TheTVDB for a while.
I hope that they get ironed out for people in the future.
(to keep it on topic) so people don't get confused why the OAV has its own entry and isn't just specials in the Record of Lodoss War.

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Re: [Name Change] Lodoss:The Legend Of Crystania OAV

Postby DarklightIndigo » Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:34 pm

Legacy is probably our largest sticking point, because we retain series under it that we should really either blanket-include or blanket-delete, and that's to maintain some sense of stability for older collections.

OAVs are a bit odd, because we originally barred them to keep actual porn out (we're supposed to be family-friendly on the data side), but that's blocked quite a lot of legit third-party content as OAV producers pivoted to the merely risqué, and including OAVs with unrelated series isn't really a viable solution.
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Re: [Name Change] Lodoss:The Legend Of Crystania OAV

Postby ByteShare » Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:39 am

DarklightIndigo wrote:Legacy is probably our largest sticking point, because we retain series under it that we should really either blanket-include or blanket-delete, and that's to maintain some sense of stability for older collections.

OAVs are a bit odd, because we originally barred them to keep actual porn out (we're supposed to be family-friendly on the data side), but that's blocked quite a lot of legit third-party content as OAV producers pivoted to the merely risqué, and including OAVs with unrelated series isn't really a viable solution.

A mature option like anidb or themoviedb would resolve some of those issues....but I can see the sticky situation of OAVs.